is it, in fact, possible for an automotive alternator to produce enough hydrogen, to power the car?
category: Hydrogen Cars
I have seen some outrageous claims over the years about cars able to run exclusively on water. However their HO generators couldn’t possibly do the job. I have built some that improve performance, but have yet to see one that will run without gas. Is it possible using a stock alternator to produce enough hydrogen through electrolysis to run the vehicle?
That would be perpetual motion and here on planet Earth we observe the Laws of Thermal Dynamics. They make these claims to get your money. Funny how they invented this but can’t get it of the ground can’t get any funding, bla bla. If you develop this and prove it, I will give you 1 billion for exclusive rights to this, since I would make millions of billions of trillions of dollars and would rule the world inside of a month.
It takes 200-300% more energy to break water into HHO than you get out. and must be salt water since pure water with no minerals is non conductive
If your going to use hydrogen use it in a fuel cell to power electric motors. A fuel cell / motor is at least around 85% efficient as far as the car alone is concerned not overall. burning hydrogen in an ICE will yeild only about 20% efficiency less than gas, due to the fact that it burns very hot, wasted energy, and very low density.
No.
It costs energy to convert energy from one form to another.
So, you could produce hydrogen… as long as the tank was full of gasoline.
If you took a dollar and used it to buy something while paying a 5% sales tax and then the person selling you that something bought something else from you with the money he got from you and only that money but again paying a 5% sales tax, would you now have more than a dollar? The answer is an obvious and unequivocal no.
Many of the kits do tend to show some marginal gains in efficiencies and or performance but these are often from leaning out the fuel air ratio, mixing water into the fuel, drawing on the battery for some excess hydrogen, oxidation of aluminum allegedly as a catalyst when in fact aluminum is a fuel in it’s own right and scavenging energy by the oxidation of the rest of your car. There are many ways to make an apparent benefit to fool the unwary.
The concept of making hydrogen by electrolysis and then obtaining energy from the oxidation of the hydrogen is only promoted due to the familiarity the public has with the grade school electrolysis demonstration hence people believe that it works, if they actually sat down and did the math, they would see that although that balloon blowing up in a fireball is impressive, it’s a lot less than the energy you put in to the electrolysis in the first place.
Note if the production of hydrogen from water was all you want, you don’t need to add anything to the car that you have. When a lead acid battery is overcharged, it produces hydrogen gas by electrolysis so all you would need is to tap the gases from the battery cells and have a way of pouring more distilled water into the cells. This is why the old unsealed batteries needed their levels checked every week and topped off with distilled water, the modern sealed batteries actually reclaim the water by allowing the hydrogen to react slowly with the oxygen within the battery. Essentially, those HHO kits are just selling people what they already have.
NO, NO, NO and NO again.
I have a long post that will show you why it can’t and won’t work, (If you want to see it post and edit and I’ll re-post it here)
It can’t and wont improve performance, if can’t and won’t increase fuel mileage, it can’t and won’t increase hp.
If you have installed this silly thing, here’s a quick test, hook up your HO generator to a switch, now give the switch to a friend and let them turn it on and off without you knowing it. While driving down the highway at a steady speed, have your friend randomly turn the HO generator off and on. If the claims are true EVERY time your friend turns it on you should see an immediate increase in speed, to the tune of 10%+. So if you are driving at 60 mph your speed should jump to 66 mph (at least) with you doing nothing. Just make sure you can’t hear the switch.
Using electrolysis to split water uses up a lot of energy and takes a long time. The only practical and green way to do that is in a separate facility that uses green electricity.
I am experimenting with the same myself but,have come to the conclusion that what little hydrogen that is produced must be compressed to run your car totally on hydrogen. But, it may also be that the timing of the car may need to be changed as well since one burns hotter than the other.