006 HHO Dry Cell Install F350 7.3L Diesel 5.5mmw 3L/m
category: Fuel Economy
Number six in the series. This is the HHO installation in my Ford F350 Superduty 7.3 Liter Diesel.
Recommended Guide
category: Fuel Economy
Number six in the series. This is the HHO installation in my Ford F350 Superduty 7.3 Liter Diesel.
Yes on my new setup I will have a shield between the dogs and the electrolyte reservoir.
I am not worried about flashback. The plugs in the bubbler and the reservoir pop out easily and the HHO inlet into the engine is very far from any possible flame. But it is better to be safe than sorry.
Mars
Have you tested your flamearrestor
It is not better, to make a PSI-Relief.
If your Doggies are sitting so nearby a blowing bubbler, with KOH, maybe they are not laughing..
h2opower: Let me know if you ever find a vacuum that is connected to the intake of a diesel engine, you could make history. Take your own advise and read more. You might want to look up the definitions of the following terms:
Flash point of hydrogen< -423 ºF
Auto ignition point of hydrogen 1085 ºF
LEL of Hydrogen (see earlier comment)
Keep Reading, Marshall
If you have read h2opower’s comments here and my responses to his comments you should know the answer to your question. Keep in mind that the pressure after the turbo charger varies from a partial vacuum to as much as 20psi positive pressure (even more pressure is possible with modifications.
In the future direct questions to users that comment directly to that user with a personal message.
Marshall
No I haven’t modified the MAP sensor and I don’t plan to. I don’t think that is a good idea on this vehicle.
did you ever do anything with the map sensor on your 7.3?
It is best to add the hho to the vacuum line or after the intercooler. Never before the turbo for if any part of the intake system reaches hydrogens flash point of 500 degrees that just what it will do, flash. Be safe okay?
Hi,h2opower,i have one 2005year toyota hilux
D4D 2.5L turbo diesel ,may i know which place is best tio inject HHO,before turbo or after turbo is better? Thanks
I think that you are confusing flash point with LEL. “The LEL is the lowest gas concentration that will support an explosion when mixed with air, contained and ignited.” Hydrogen’s flamable @4% concentration and will explode @15% concentration.
The hydrogen in my air intake is about .003% (that’s not 3% it’s 3 thousandths of a %) I would have to put in 208L per min to hit 4% concentration.
While it is possible to achieve about 450F in a non-intercooled turbo intake when the engine is extremely over fueled but by that time other things will start to melt.
Like I said you really need to do your own homework since you just don’t listen very well. Why do you think they put an intercooler after the turbo? Answer, to cool the air back down. Do your homework, Arizona State college has a study out ment for introducing mechanics to hydrogen being used in internal combustion engines, do a search for it, and read all you can so you can be safe.
I have been thinking about this ,and correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t think that the intake side of the turbo can get up to 500F. If it did then the rubber couplers on the intercooler tubes would melt. The Exhaust side of the Turbo can get very hot but by then the H2 is burnt.
Best to make a vacuum delivery system, that way you get around the turbo’s heat, but you might also want to put a water injection system at the intercooler just too be safe. Turbos are not the easiest to put hho too them. In my Sirocco I did just that, and have not had a blow back in well over two years. Diesels are nice in that they will ignite the hydrogen mixture with compression for I think 16:1 compression is all it takes to ignite the hydrogen according to Albert Bowe. PV=nRT gas law stuff
I am not only listening I am responding.
Good Luck, Marshall
That being said, I would like to find a way to inject the HHO under pressure into the manifold and by pass all the filter,turbo,intercooler and hoses to decrease response time between when HHO is called for and delivered.
Good Luck, Marshall
P.S guessing that it takes one second for any given molecule of H2 to traverse the air intake then there would be only 25ml of extra H2 plus about 7ml atmospheric H2 at idle (much more dilute at driving speeds). How much damage could that do?
Since you wont listen to me, do yourself a faovr and look into the properties of hydrogen gas on the net. Since you are going to be using the gas might as well know what it is you are dealing with.
Hi: I had’nt considered the possibility of the H2 being ignited by a turbo. However I do not think that ignition is possible since the amount of H2 is so low. For any gas to burn the molecules have to be close together and I do not think that there is enough H2 in the air mix to burn. The engine is a 7.3L with a turbo. Figuring there is an intake stroke every other rev and the turbo doubles the air intake there is 5,110L of air going into the engine @ idle every min. I am adding 1.5L of H2.
The turbo is going to ignight the hydrogen once it reaches 500 degrees, for that is hydrogen flashpoint. Not sure how your turbo is going to handle hho exploding inside of it, but find another spot to put in the hho gas, maybe the intercooler or the main vacuum line, but the temps inside of turbos is too high for hydrogen to be in direct contant with it.